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are up for re-election in north carolina or out west or down south or wherever they're from, i don't think he can lift it. and can that's what i'm talking about in terms of overreach. if this was something where you said close the loophole on gun shows, catch the 40% of people who are going into the shows and escaping, buying guns if they're mentally disturbed and we should catch that and reasonable restrictions. the problem in the heller case and what d.c. was doing is they said you couldn't have a gun unless you registered it, but then today wouldn't let you register it. i mean, that's an effective you can't do it. and that does, in fact, go too far. so if it's a common sense -- and, you know, quite frankly, i don't know why ten. i don't know why somebody needs ten bullets, let alone thirty. so ten doesn't seem like some magic number to me. and, again, to the gun owners, that sounds like something somebody made up, ten. so i think that the president'stive orders -- executive orders can be accepted by the republican party, and if they did the incremental approach of background che
they're worried about their elections. i think that in the center of the country and the red states where these senators are running, they don't think that the president's message works, and they're going to try to move themselves away from that because they're worried about it. they're worried about all these -- >> we're talking about the majority of the country though. if the majority is with the president, is he too liberal? that's what i'm asking. can you call the guy too left when he's right where the middle is? how can you keep saying that? it's the only question i want to put to you. if more than 50% support equality of marriage, more than 50% support a woman's right to choose, if more than 50% are with him on guns and foreign policy, how can you call that the far left? >> let me put it this way, the fact of the matter is this is going to be politically very problematic for harry reid because for the constituency he represents in the senate, they're not going to be able to get a lot of things that the president wants done because it's too far to the left of him. for example,
everything he ran on, and that's why he won this election by such a big margin over mitt romney. voters elected barack obama to a second term knowing what they were going to get, and everything he talkedded about today, putting people back to work, dwetting the economy back on track for a fair shot. immigration reform, reduction in gun violence, climate change, education, all of those things are what he campaigned on and talked about it in a way showing he has hope, stillments change, but he understands to bring the country forward, he has to do it in a non-traditional way like the campaign. gerri: justin, do you agree? the same old same old? same push, same rhetoric, same positions? >> a different barack obama than in 2004 as rich mentioned than 2008. this is not the post partisan barack obama, but one laying down a marker expanding -- explaning the vision for progressive government, not even a nod whatsoever todd fact that the american people elected republicans to control the people's house, the house of representatives, no nod to the fact there needs to be bipartisan at all whatsoev
is supposed to be for the people. it is not. we really don't elect the president no more. the electoral votes do. we don't have any say. we are the ones that just keep paying. we are paying more and more and more taxes all the time. so there's always some reason they've got to have more money. why don't they take some money out of their pockets for one year? let them learn to live like we do. they all live way above their means. does not take a half million dollars or zero million dollars a year to live.- -- it does not take a half million dollars or $1 million a year to live. host: we have members of congress coming in this morning and we will throw out your proposal to them to see what they think. on twitter -- here's a headline in the washington post. let's hear or twice house secretary jay carney hata said. [video clip] >> the bill still has to overcome concerns expressed by members of the house and senate before it can pass both chambers and reached the president's desk. if it does and it reaches his desk, he will not stand in the way of the bill becoming law. broadly speaking, i will po
in that regard in through the fire in the election. i think that's fair. the senate just simply has not. and it is discouraging. you know, it just takes 51 votes. that's all it takes over there. i actually heard commentators tell us, oh, no, it takes 60. it takes no such thing. it just takes 51 votes where the majority now has 55 and at one point had 59 and was unable to -- unwilling, i should say, get 51 where you got over 228 of our members do last year which was actually vote on a budget going into an election year. mr. chairman, i'm delighted to see legs like this. i do think there are legitimate constitutional questions. i think those we'll have a vigorous discussion about that in the next couple of days. i'm comforted by some of the precedence you cite, mr. at the end of the day, this is about getting us to do our jobs. there isn't a member up here that wouldn't tell you it really is our obligation to write a budget. again, our friends in the majority did not. i'm really happy to see the minority, they have chosen to do so. i think it's actually a very good thing. the minority, ge
her outburst is not an outburst. it's a re-election flection of l think about this. if you were going to be real about these issues you would be asking what can we do to beef up the security. something gop members have already cut, you know, and they have decisions to cut it now in these days as we're speaking. it's rank hypocrisy. i think it's a fresh breath of air that people -- >> i agree with you about the hypocrisy because i remember 9/11 very clearly and i remember how this country rallied around a president who had limited ability but we all rallied around him. the first reaction was he says we're going to get the people who knocked down this building and everybody cheered him. they weren't saying how did you screw it up buddy. it was about unit. the left and center are much better at national unity than the right. the right sees a national tragedy like this far off in bengha benghazi, not in new york city, at a very exposed position which could have happened no matter how many troops he would there. we don't blame it on everybody even know it was new york right into the heart
it because he doesn't have to worry about getting re-elected. >> well, he wasn't concealing anything. he's a progressive democrat. i loved the speech yesterday because of what he didn't say. he very often goes into this kind of airy dreaming of how we'll just transcend partisanship. well, we won't. politics is partisan. washington is partisan. it was for president clinton who wanted to campaign that he was there, campaigned saying i want to be a uniter, not a divider. our president said, he offered a vision that republicans should sign on to. they used to be tough when i was a kid. now they are just whiny. he reached out to them plenty in his first term and all they did was spit in his eye. >> i think when it comes to comprehensive immigration reform, i think the president can work with senator marco rubio. but what about on climate change? what about same-sex marriage? is there going to be cooperation in those two areas? >> number one, on same-sex marriage, the president hasn't thrown any weight behind legislation or for repealing the legislation that paul's because, bill's boss signed
have seen from the president in the weeks and months since he won election is a very aggressive stance in dealing with republicans. the quote that really stuck out to me is we cannot mistake absolutism for principal or treat name calling as reasoned debate. those are words that make clear he is ready for a fight and he is not going to be back away from it. he seems to be changing his pattern with the way he deals with senate in his second term. he is trying to make clear that he is done with it. i don't know if he is in fact done with it because a lot of things happen between the principals that you lay out in a speech and what you do when it get tos time to govern. so he is going to have a lot of negotiation going on, and some negotiating away from the principals that he has laid out. he said he has changed his position that he said he wouldn't change at all on the tax line. but he seems to be taking a very different approach. >> jennifer: hank i want to play a sound bite. take a listen. >> obama: our journey is not complete until all of our children from
for a re-elected president. i think it's directly correlated to this number the fact that it hasn't come down at all in the last four years. >> let's go to other presidents george w. bush, clinton. what will their unemployment numbers. >> you can look at those numbers president bush got hit by economic crisis. increased toward his popularity. president clinton very popular his unemployment numbers were extremely low. you can see the correlation. reagan's number interestingly enough 7.3 percent it was high. it came down it was much higher closer to 10 percent he was re-elected. his started at 3.5 it went up to almost 5. even though he was reelected in a land slide he was not popular because he wasn't likeable. wasn't that popular. >> you say there's a direct popularity in unemployment numbers and popularity. >> the trajectory of unemployment. if you bring it down your popularity goes up almost inversely. the other way around. even if you have a low number to start with if you go up your popularity goes down. >> those are the popularity numbers. talk about the national debt at the start of
and a number of senators as well. and to ask him directly about the elections and ask him about my second question. but i wanted to get your sense of where you see those lexes going. what efforts you can undertake to make sure that they are free and fair because they've been, i think, central to the next chapter in this transition. i just wanted to comment on that. the second question as it relates to afghanistan is one that senator boxer raised and her work on this has been exemplary, on women and girls and in particular, i have a -- an amendment that we got through the national defense authorization act which would require both state and defense to file a report on the efforts to promote the security of afghan women and girls just by way of itemization monitoring and responding to changes in women's security that will be part of the report. secondly, improving gender sensitivity and responsiveness among the afghan security forces and increasing the recruitment and retention of women in the afghan security forces. so both with regard to the election and women and girls. >> senator with r
. >> good afternoon. i am the first elected of newtown, the scene of the most horrific event that took place at sandy hook elementary school in which we lost 26 children and staff members. i am here to show support for those initiatives late out today by vice president biden and president obama. both of those members said our world has changed because of what happened at sandy hook. par contest as has been raised. we have the obligation to address. if that is so, change will take place. i would hate to find myself a year from now reading about another of that -- another event. i truly believe the will of the people make a difference. i am calling on everyone to have the courage to stand up and help us make that difference. we should never again visit a tragedy such as we had in newtown. i call on everyone of you as mothers and fathers and members of a reasonable society to know it is time for us to make a change. please do everything you can to support common sense policies. we need to know that we are the answer to this problem. thank you. >> hi, i'm president of the brady campaign. i come
and the conservatives and that his goal is to win the 2014 elections and return control of the house to the democrats. most second term presidents have a significantly less partisan and less confrontational attitude towards that they try to >>> a lot of people never thought he was elected in the first place, and today, tracking poll, three day running average, 49% for obama. he was at 67% in the polls four years ago. 18-point decline from that. when operating is not designed to make it more popular and bring the country together. >> bill: now, one of the people that is thought to be a competitor to the democrats in the next presidential election is governor chris christie of new jersey. recently nra took out an ad saying president obama was a hypocrite because he sends his children to school protected by armed guards and that he doesn't want armed guards in other schools. christie didn't like that ad by the nra and said this. >> don't be dragging peoples' children into this. it's wrong z i think it's a means that makes them less of a valid, trusted source of information on the real issues. that confr
amendment, which forbids congress to make any changes to pay until after the next election. is this still the right way to go for the gop? >> yes, i think it is. first of all, it's always a pleasure to be on fox with kristy. but i have been dying in anticipation today to see if or how she might condemn this latest gop compromise. this is the second republican compromise within the last month, as we know the first one was on the fiscal cliff package on taxes. and that is not going unnoticed by many gop critics like the "washington post" today, whose editorial basically said that this latest proposal by the republicans is very reasonable and that the president and the senate would be wise to support it. you know, listen, the republican party is coming out of this last election as a broken party. i mean, admittedly they are. getting them unified right now is a challenge. but i think what they did yesterday is an important step. yesterday, they had to raise the debt ceiling. i don't think there was anything getting in the way of that. they never wanted to do that, but it was an important firs
won the election. thak a look at the poll numbers, a new cnn/"time" magazine/orc poll, shows the president's approval rating is 55%, 43% disapprove of the way he's doing his job. breakdown, 92% of democrats say they approve. 13% of republicans say the president is doing a good job. >> just 13% of republicans say the president is doing a good job. so how does he begin to bridge that gap? clark judge is with us right now. he's a speech writer who worked in the reagan white house, he's the founder and managing director of the white house writers group. so clark, you think the president needs to do something to reach across the aisle. to talk about the common themes that unite us. how do you do that? >> a good model for him would be bill clinton's inaugural address, or ronald reagan's second inaugural. both of those were similar kinds of political environments. congress was in the hands of the other party. or one house was, at least. and each of them was very gracious towards the other party. reached out, said things about the goodwill of the other party. >> the difference there
fundamental responsibility of any elected official is to pass a budget. now when we took over in the house in four months, we passed the budget, many of you have said, was one of the toughest ones to come out of the house. higher vote than at any other time in the last decade. democrats said we are going to do political damage to you in the election. you know what? we were honest with the american public. where we currently stood and our budget wasn't about just today but tomorrow, but about securing medicare and building for a better future for your children. what's the history in the senate? last time they passed the budget, the ipad hadn't been introduced. we have had trillion dollar deficits every year. nobody would expect to be paid if they didn't do their job. no budget, no pay. if harry reid cannot pass a budget, they are fundamentally moving the responsibility why they should even be in the majority. to me, this is a turning point for this country, getting to the fundamentals of a planning for the future that this could be the mark of a great american comeback. >> good evening. yes
industry and the auto comeback, particularly ahead of the election, listen, the government backs out of these auto loans, through the roof and if you can knock the competitive american cars down and maybe deliberately trying to stop americans from tying toyotas. the flip side, boeing is our largest exporter, it seems, don't drive this car, but fly this plane. charles: and some are reaching out. >> replace the lithium batteries, they cause fires in cell phone and laptops. >> and barack obama tells congress to pass an assault weapons ban and the national rifle association calls it the fight of the century and added 250,000 new members the pro gun organization now has well over 4 million members. and fbi says it's conducted 2.8 million background checks just in the month of december, that's a record. there's a nationwide run on guns, gun manufacturers in fact cannot keep up with demand. at the top of the hour, n.r.a. president david keeene, we'll have to ask him about the president's push for gun control. the results of the president's proposals ban on assault weapons, gone stocks surgi
. >> my colleague and i went to chicago. this was in the midst of the election and picked up opposition research prepared by jack ryan, obama's onetime republican senate point. he found all this information. the way he frames it, and i think it's probably right, is that obama was always very soft on crime but very tough on guns. every time obama had a crime vote to take when he was in the illinois state senate, he always voted "present" because he didn't want to -- for two reasons. one, he said that criminal law disproportionately affected african-americans. he saw a racial component there. additionally, he said i don't want to clog the court system with all these cases. what do you want to clog the court system with? we thought given his rhetoric on guns lately it would be interesting to bring up this vote where he said i don't want to give tougher prosecution to children who shoot in schools. >>steve: you look at chicago, one of the murder capitals of the world. nothing the president proposed the other day would crack down on handgun violence in chicago. there is one other thing we wa
republicans elected in 1994 and then became a clinton conspiracyialyial theorist. so i think the voters of his district know how to treat that behavior, by senning him home. >> stephanie: a new poll finds that president obama's approval rating 55% approve 43% disapprove. so i -- doesn't that make you crazy, karl when these republicans go on and say the american people -- >> well they mean, you know the people in the try corner hats. the various koch brothers. >> stephanie: yeah, all of the koch brothers. >> yeah. by the way they would be in a much better place as a party, and we would be in a much better place as a country if they knew what the american people wanted. they will win elections from time to time in the near future but unless they change their stances on issues, unless they come around to issues that are popular with young people and single people and women and gay people and people of color -- >> stephanie: most carbon-based life forms. >> yeah unless they come around on those issues in 15 years there won't be a republican party like it looks today
to business leaders as you know, since the election in particular and he has met with dozens of ceo's and business leaders and talking about the fiscal cliff and the debt ceiling debate coming in the weeks ahead and you'll remember at a previous jobs council meeting, the president made a comment that back fired on him and to what jay carney said about the president and the economy. >> shovel ready was not as shovel ready as we expected. >> the reelection was in some ways for all of us here, you know, a humbling experience because it was an assertion by the electorate to said despite how hard the last four years have been on this country because of the great economic crisis that we were in when the president took office, that the steps that we've taken have been the right steps, and more work needs to be done. >> more work needs to be done. when you talk to the president's top advisors, they say he wants to act quickly after the inaugural address and state of the union coming up in february to work on key domestic issues like immigration he reform, like gun control that he's been tal
people elected it to do. mr. president, may i ask unanimous consent that the period of morning business be now extended until 6:30 p.m. today and all provisions of the previous order remain in effect. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. whitehouse: i yield the floor. a senator: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from georgia. mr. chambliss: i rise to speak today about our tax code as well as our economic future. there's a problem with our tax code, one that hits home with nearly all americans, and that is its complexity. in the fast past few years i have met with hundreds and hundreds of constituents who are worried about this issue, individuals, small businesses, farms and large corporations alike struggle with meeting their obligations to the i.r.s. because of the complexity of our current tax code. earlier this month the i.r.s. taxpayer advocate revealed some startling figures in the agency's annual record report to congress. it estimates that individuals and businesses spend 6.1 billion hours each year complying with the i.r.s. tax filing requirements. the c
, people who are bureaucrats, people who are elected officials -- anyone. you cannot have a two tiered system where half of the people that are just civilians have to abide by the laws and everybody else does not. one of the most important factors that each firearm as the president said is being traced. it has to be done at every level. there is nothing to stop a bad cop -- let's say there is one cop who is bad that can stop a criminal with a stolen gun and give it to a friend, keep it, or trade it. all of these firearms, if they are going to go into the process of tree's ability, then it has to be seamless and transparent. no. two, the high-capacity magazines that everybody castigates so strongly, let me tell you something. if you live in a bad area, an area where there are gang members that cruise by your neighborhood all of the time, you do not want to be stuck with a single barrel shotgun or a single shot shotgun. you need to have the ability to protect your family and your friends and your neighbors. as a result of that -- began does not shoot people, you shoot people. -- the gun
employees whether we are elected officials or appointed or civil service employees have to hold ourselves to a higher standard and obviously this fellow hasn't done that. >> alisyn: arguing hey it was just laying around here. i needed power and he is just resourceful. >> well, that may be his argument. the fact is that doesn't hold muster with the public. this it fellow is being paid with public money and you just can't help yourself to public products. >> let's talk about that salary he was collecting $165,000 a year because did he this has now been cut in half to $83,000 a year. does that punishment sit well with you? is that good enough. >> i'm note sure. that's something for the mta to answer. certainly, they are going to look at this its swa. they have all of the facts. and he has to answer to his supervisors. we don't know what he has done. he apparently used other employees to do this as well. he loaded the generator with his employees into a public vehicle during work hours brought the generator to his home during work hours. you know. if you are him you have just had your salary
candidates for 2016. much like gay marriage was the hot topic during last year's election politicians are predicting gun control will be the big divisive issue in four years. despite the uproar over last month's massacre in newtown connecticut, many are throwing any chance of new firearm restrictions out the window, saying obama's proposals will not even make it to a vote on the house floor. that will leave it largely up to the states. we've already seen new york pass the nation's tightest gun control legislation. next up could be maryland where governor martin o'malley will introduce his own proposals this week. both states are home to potential 2016 candidates and we could see this trend keep up for any democrat who wants to be taken seriously during the next presidential election. >>> and think progress is looking into some ceos who want people to retire later. they're thinking of raising the retirement age up to 70 saying social security is no longer affordable. as think progress notes that's not the case. the program can pay full benefits for decades into the future and with a co
's family, if you want to attack the candidate or the elected official, certainly that's your prerogative but generally family has been considered off limits, and that doesn't add anything to legitimate dialogue that really needs to take place on the issues of public safety and gun regulations. >> although some people are also criticizing president obama for surrounding himself with children, when he held his news conference on his gun control plans yesterday. should children be used in that instance? >> i don't think those children were "used." they were there at an event, they wrote letters to the president. he talked about the letters that they wrote. they're very concerned that something as horrific as newtown, connecticut, or things that happened on the streets in philadelphia, chicago, new york, washington, any city in america, could possibly happen to them, and i thought the president gave them a voice in this conversation. often the adults seem to forget that children care about these issues as well. >> but you know, some might argue that the children didn't actually need to be pr
't rely just on the fact that your elected representatives are in favor. you can write to them and say merely that i want to vote for this, what you have to do is write to them and say, i want you to use your influence to persuade others to use your influence as chair of the appropriations committee or as a senior member of the minority party in the house of representatives. it is more than just about that we have to ask of our elected officials. we have to ask her leadership as well. >> i will just add on to that. my own feeling is that to get some change along the lines, i think you were suggesting that it will require more gun owners to speak out in favor of common sense regulations. i think that the politicians who feel like they have to work hard for their nra a+ ratings would maybe feel less like that is necessary if they had another group of gunowners who could validate what they can civil to be regulations on firearms. as has been alluded to, but we will go into more detail tomorrow, the vast majority of gun owners are supportive of most of the measures that we are talking abou
purposes. >> i just want to say the whole business about people use today is mitt romney lost the election with the whole horse and bayonet. i wish would stay away from that because the president said were not using bayonets anymore. so it's a different weaponry, but the other thing missing here i think when i talk about overreach, the e-mail you read in general kristol's observation is people say, why do you need an assault weapon? nobody needs an assault weapon, but that's not the issue. by somebody in this country need to have a trial by jury? by somebody who's robbed a bank need to have the fourth amendment having a search warrant before you issue? nobody needs those things. the issue as they were enshrined in the constitution. so you have to make sure you work with what the supreme court has said. the right to bear arms is an individual right. the first of all affect the value can you can have reasonable restrictions, so the path forward for responsible legislators is to find out what the reasonable restrictions are that save lives. i think the taking of when human life is a horrible
to protect six democrats who are up for election in two years from now. six seats where the president had fewer than 42% of the votes and i don't think so that they're going to expose the democrats to having to choose between their constituents who know the value and importance of the second amendment and the president's policies. >> steve: what do you think of what mitch mcconnell said in the robo call that went out to several thousand kentuckiens, to make sure he'll do everything in his power to defeat it. >> we know what that means, it has to do with individual's rights to own and bear arms, you know, which is one of the reasons that i've had disagreements with the attorney general, who thinks it has to do only with the well-regulated militia, but i'm a doctor. i know there's much more to this than just what's happening in gun shows or gun shelves. so if the president wants to push a political agenda, if he actually wants to solve a problem of violence in america, there are things that we can do as a doctor, i will tell you this, with regard to mental health, with regard to a culture o
confidence coming back after the election? and some of the bigger guys coming in maybe looking for some construction loans, commercial loans that you can make a ton of money on in the second half of 2013? >> well, we saw pretty good loan growth in the course of 2012, pipelines because we had strong closings in the fourth quarter are down a little bit as we transition into the year. i would say that we haven't -- have not seen a big pick-up in confidence in the marketplace. you're correct and we got through the fiscal cliff, but we've got a number of different things, whether it be the debt ceiling, the sequester, the continuing resolution in d.c. that are on the surface. our sense is customers are gaining confidence, they're willing to make marginal investments, but they're going to be very measured steps and they're going to be reflective of a loan environment that's commensurate with a 2% to 3% growth economy. given that we think we'll get our fair share, we'll put some very profitable relationships long-term high-quality relationships on the balance sheet, and at the e of the -- this
or so. >> are you seeing confidence coming back after the election? and some of the bigger guys coming in maybe looking for some construction loans, commercial loans that you can make a ton of money on in the second half of 2013? >> well, we saw pretty good loan growth in the course of 2012, pipelines because we had strong closings in the fourth quarter are down a little bit as we transition into the year. i would say that we haven't -- have not seen a big pick-up in confidence in the marketplace. you're correct and we got through the fiscal cliff, but we've got a number of different things, whether it be the debt ceiling, the sequester, the continuing resolution in d.c. that are on the surface. our sense is customers are gaining confidence, they're willing to make marginal investments, but they're going to be very measured steps and they're going to be reflective of a loan environment that's commensurate with a 2% to 3% growth economy. given that we think we'll get our fair share, we'll put some very profitable relationships long-term high-quality relationships on the balance sheet, a
me great pleasure to introduce a newly-elected colleague from connecticut who will introduce our first witness and that is congresswoman and whose district that sandy hook elementary school resides. we will have all the various members introduce our witnesses then we will proceed with the testimony. >> thank you so much. thanks to all of you for being with us today. as witnesses to what happened in our community of newtown, connecticut and as to a call for action as to what we must do as a country. i'm honored today to introduce janet robinson who has become a good friend, who is a true american hero. for five years she has served as the superintendent of schools in newtown, connecticut. throughout her career she has shown a constant and loving commitment to education and improving the lives of children. in addition to having served as superintendent of schools in three different connecticut communities, janet has served as a teacher, a school counselor, and a school psychologist. i met janet in the fire house which was the emergency center of newtown, connecticut on the afternoo
than we should have and it's the next election cycle or partisanship for the public interest has already taken and economic toll on what could have been because the bottom line is not only do we have to put these kind of savings policies in place, we have to be thoughtful about how we do them and when we are talking about spending, we have to think about how we not only bring spending down, but we readjust and prioritize and the budget completely emphasizes consumption instead of assumption. we need to turn that on its head and when we talk about revenue there is no question that was an aging population you have to bring in more revenue than you have in the past but if you do that in the same outdated anti-competitive tax system if you use this opportunity and you are bold about tax reform that we need on the individual and corporate side to open up our economic system you can do this in a way that is good for the economy so we have hard choices to make and we should give ourselves the time to put the policies in place that deal with the deficit and also have a vision and the sta
of the most passionate ceos. liz: very passionate. he wrote op-eds. he gave us a live interview on election night in fox business. you know what? it is about all crucial it is to fix the debt. he is ceo of nasdaq omx, bob greifeld. good to see you, bob. >> good to be here liz where do we stand with fix the debt? any closer? >> i think we're disappointed how the fiscal cliff negotiations played out and we as ceos in ticks the debt said we were fine with tax rates going up on the wealthy, and we said that in the context of in addition, we should have spending cuts. we got one half of the deal. we're certainly hopeful congress and the president will go forward with spending cuts as they address the sequester and other continuing budget resolution issues that they have. liz: except of course we have this debt ceiling once again. are you optimistic about things? >> i certainly do not believe the debt ceiling is where these negotiations should take place. we have incurred these debts. we have the full faith and credit of the u.s. government should not be put at rest. we think the debt ceiling, be
years ago they won the elections there. the military had to come in to take over the government to prevent them from assuming power. this phenomenon didn't happen overnight. it has been building in the arab world. rise of fundamentalist islam, the rise of radical politicized islam. we've seen its manifestation in a number of different ways including al qaeda. but it is broad and it's deep and the idea we can simply say as we've done the past four years the on terror is over, al qaeda is defeated, we don't have to worry about it, we can cut our defense budget without limit, we're seeing right now, right in front of us the danger of this kind of thinking. martha: what should we do? you know, if americans are still being held and this is a very fuzzy situation right now what should the reaction be? >> i think we need to get some clarity what's going on the ground but i think what it also shows you can't wait for this kind of event to happen before you plan in advance. i think we blindsided by the attack in benghazi, by the attacks on our other embassies. we should have plans in pla
now. this is the time to celebrate our democracy and celebrate the president's re-election. we'll be back at you some time soon but now is the time to take a little time off and be great that we're american. >> i know you will and i also know there are some issues in which we all ought to be able to work together. one of the things that i appreciate about you is that you've been able to do that, say that. it's important for the country. >> i think it's important for all of us to see this little goodwill, even if it's brief, especially around an historic moment like this right now. any final words you want to offer alex, governor, before you go? >> i had a huge mustache and didn't cut it until i was 26 because i wanted to look old and then i cut it off because i already was older looking and now alex will get a new lease on life. david, you look pretty good there, too. i think you're going to enjoy it. >> so that's the key to success, huh? >> you feel stronger, too, without that mustache? >> not just yet. i'm a little wobbly. it's cold up here now. >> governor, thanks very much
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